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A new battle for Confucius

Post  ianadds on Fri Mar 05, 2010 9:45 am

A new battle for Confucius
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/LC04Ad06.html

Chinese philosophers Confucius and Mozi engaged in fierce debates in the fourth and third centuries BC and Mozi was possibly more popular, but by the 19th century he was all but forgotten. In the past few decades Mozi's works have regained some popularity; this will be helped by a major translation into English of his works that throws new light on ancient Chinese military strategy. - Francesco Sisci (Mar 3, '10)

In the 17th century, when Western Jesuits embarked on the daring task of spreading Catholicism in China, they found in Mozi some cultural basis for belief in a Christian God. Mozi's religious faith in a "will of Heaven" lent some grounds to the Jesuits to argue that Christianity was not totally alien to Chinese culture. Centuries later, the Jesuits' efforts helped Chinese who were willing to modernize without giving up all of their traditions to confront Western culture with a piece of their own philosophy - Mozi.

Furthermore, Mozi's doctrine of "universal love" sounded like the idea of Christian love propagated in the 17th century, as well as like the drive to egalitarianism by the communists in the 20th century.
Interesting, A revolutionary thinker in a way before the arrival of Jesuits in China...
Mozi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozi
In contrast to those of Confucius, Mozi's moral teachings emphasized self-reflection and authenticity rather than obedience to ritual. He observed that we often learn about the world through adversity ("Embracing Scholars" in Mozi). By reflecting on one's own successes and failures, one attains true self-knowledge rather than mere conformity with ritual. ("Refining Self" in Mozi) Mozi exhorted the gentleman to lead a life of asceticism and self-restraint, renouncing both material and spiritual extravagance.


Mozi tried to replace what he considered to be the long-entrenched Chinese over-attachment to family and clan structures with the concept of "impartial caring" or "universal love" (兼愛, jiān ài). In this, he argued directly against Confucians who had argued that it was natural and correct for people to care about different people in different degrees.
Doctrine of brotherly love, yes indeed....

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Conversation as a taste of harmony

Post  ianadds on Fri Mar 05, 2010 10:01 am

Introduction to Chinese thinking 101...
Conversation as a taste of harmony
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/LB24Ad01.html
The shared Chinese and European disposition toward complexity, compromise and negotiation lends itself to peaceful co-existence between diverse civilizations and as such is a better match for understanding the realities of the 21st century than the fiction of a global village promulgated by America, its self-proclaimed leader. Globalism is to the notion of a "harmonious world" what arrogant monologue is to genuine conversation. - David Gosset (Feb 23, '10)

While Europe put more emphasis on the particular (cities, kingdoms, nation-states), China aimed at the universal, the rich notion of "tianxia", "all-under-Heaven", whose political expression has been the empire or the dynasty (wangchao). As the great Chinese intellectual Liang Qichao (1873–1929) remarked:
The Chinese people have never recognized the nation (guojia) as the highest form of mankind's organization, claiming always that a higher form must exist, a suzerain (zongzhu) of all nations, that which we call all-under-Heaven (tianxia)… This type of broad-minded cosmopolitanism (shijiezhuyi) has been the nucleus of Chinese political thinking for the past several thousand years. [8]

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Re: A new battle for Confucius

Post  seeker401 on Fri Mar 05, 2010 10:28 am

tianxia is the NWO? Smile

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Re: A new battle for Confucius

Post  ianadds on Fri Mar 05, 2010 10:56 am

seeker401 wrote:tianxia is the NWO? Smile


Interesting, I have never thought it like that.... Question

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tianxia is the NWO?

Post  Major Disappointment on Mon Apr 05, 2010 2:46 pm

The INGENEZA hypothesis.

Read something interesting, and thought you might like it.

http://www.ingeneza.com/e_ingeneza.html

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Re: A new battle for Confucius

Post  ianadds on Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:14 am

Good Read !! Thank you.

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Re: A new battle for Confucius

Post  seeker401 on Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:13 pm

Major Disappointment wrote:The INGENEZA hypothesis.

Read something interesting, and thought you might like it.

http://www.ingeneza.com/e_ingeneza.html


INGENEZA is the primordial genetic information coded with configurations of quantum chromodynamics in atom's nuclei.

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The essence of Ingeneza is the imperative of continuous development of the organism of the Universe, as well as the life on the Earth.

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Non-material Ingeneza functions integrally with cosmic matter, creating its living organism.

damn thats some wild science Smile

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