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This could have been put in any number of topics/categories, but imo it is a must read email to George Ure on Urban Survival:
"George, I'm [ name withheld ]from Wichita, Kansas. I'm a 27 year old Marine Combat Vet that went through Fallujah, Iraq in 2005. I noticed a pyramid over there when I was convoying on our force protection missions (Western Iraq Al Nabar Provence).

"What the #*ck! is that doing here?" Took a pic of it for ya to see if maybe you know something of it. I do know Zacharia Sitchen says the place (Iraq and the Sumerian Civilization) is pretty important to understanding our origins. I'll have to agree on that one after many thousands of pages of reading and research. We definitely have a past that's hidden from us. I wrote a pretty long e-mail to you already but I erased it on accident so I'll have to sum up a few things quickly as I am now tired. My whole combat experience and growing up not so well off has always made me a survivalist...not in the traditional sense (even though I have now taken up the whole path of food storage, medical supplies, and obvious endless lists of beneficial items and knowledge retention). I've since gotten out and have been in law enforcement for a while...I've searched for my whole purpose as I've felt a divine presence my whole life telling me I was meant for something GRAND.
I've researched everything digging deeper into the filled up rabbit hole. I'm also sort-of a nerd but I pride myself in it. I've studied and continue to study quantum physics, geology, biology, astrology...all the "ologies" philosophy, spirituality, meditation, physiology, and consistently train physically and mentally. I have followed you and Clif's work for a while and recently purchased a copy of the ALTA report. Thank you guys. I say this because I know personally the rabbit hole is endless and the deeper we go the more overwhelming it gets. And to the others out there, be appreciative of the time we do have to self-reveal the difficult-to-piece-together knowledge that is out there. The situation is truly bizarre but hey...we're here to witness some amazing changes. The changes can seem grim but it has to get REAL worse for it to get REAL better. Whether we all see the end picture is up to Universe to reveal.
So what I have done at this point is accepted the coming changes. All I do at this point is keep up to date with the changes so I can place them on the map, since 1 thing really does lead to another we can expect other anticipated changes as a result. Out of all the obvious doom and gloom both expected, read, and experience...the most expected to me is looting and rioting. I am currently assisting my community through the neighborhood watch program. I have switched the gears on it and emphasized emergency preparedness...mostly along the lines of communication, food/water storage, and what to expect in a given scenario. My goal is that if they at least have a few weeks of food for their family's it will keep the looting down for a while until other preparations or actions are collectively agreed on. I do know that in a real situation things are not EVER as expected.
Another hint that I have noticed...its hard to tell people to have a "Survival Kit" change the terminology to "Emergency kit" makes people more relaxed about it and receptive. As I learned in Water Survival training...when your trying to save someone the victim will almost always try to drown you with them, sometimes you have to let go of them altogether or knock em' out and then revive them to save them. Tell your listeners to not drown others with them. LOL.
After I got out of the military I applied to be a security protective officer in the CIA. I flew out to Northern Virginia and was briefed and interviewed. One thing they told me was "You will be exposed to information that contradicts the news coverage" aka the news is bull crap for the most part. Man...glad I turned down that job offer. Much better living in the open although with less pay. LOL.
Just wanted to extend a Thanks To Ya Sir for everything.
Oh, no, thanks to YOU...you been there & done it...and that picture of the pyramid is interesting on any number of fronts. First, it's a 'flat topper' - like many of the Mexican, Central and South American models. and the angle is a lot less acute than the 'peaky' Cheops style. I'm assuming it wasn't an ammo storage facility - entryway is too narrow for that and yeah...kind of interesting.
Unfortunately, until some of the supposed participants in the 2001-2003 era 'antiquities units' - or their protective forces - decides to go public, or at least can fill us in on some of their missions and where they went and what they were looking for...we'll just have to make educated guesses as to whether some entity/government/organization/whatever actually went out and did a field survey and a little 'information retrieval work'. Contributions welcome, identity won't be revealed, yada, yada...
It's one of those topics where until there's a verifiable source then the odds of it being true are down in the under 1% range. Then when a source pops up, it will go to 99% - darned little middle ground.
My own theory? I think there's about an even-money chance that when the US went into the region, small intelligence teams were likely sent out to grab a photographic record of everything of value, particularly the hieroglyphs and other markings & symbology.
Here's why: Suppose you were a government - and you learned of some serious threat to the world being uncovered in a study of ancient texts in one part of the world. Nazca, Peru, or somewhere else in South or Central America would be a guess, since supposedly Quetzalcoatl came from the south to the north - being a wisdom spreader from the past civilization when Atlantis went south in the last crustal shift. (This isn't George, there are lots of learned books out there on this stuff).
Now suppose that in the work in the S/C American decoding session, a text was uncovered that said - in so many words - "When the Mayan Long Count ends, the sun will be come angry and when it does, it will send electricity and 'stuff' toward earth... and our whole 'worship of the Sun' has been cooked up to preserve this knowledge and to ensure its passage through time to the 'end of the Long Count (Baktun)'.
Suppose, even further now, that you had a church - a really big one based in Rome, and when your folks went off conquering S/C America they came back with hints in this direction. So, when you adjusted the world's calendaring system, a few years later in 1582, you didn't put in the end of the long count just right...maybe slid it a year so that when it came along in 2011...the people who were expecting it in 2012 would still be hard at work? This would ensure that those with foreknowledge of the event would be able to prepare before it dawned on most 'regular/slave-class humans...
Now, fast-forward to the US involvement in the Middle East. What IF there was something to it...wouldn't it make sense to go out and research the hell out of any new land to see if there are future-indicating clues about?
Computers, databases, and technology are such that if the US Government didn't have a small/semi-secret back-office operation somewhere that was virtually invisible yet tracking all kinds of disparate data like this because of its potential importance to long-term decision-making, well, let's just say I'd be surprised. Maybe make it some field office of the Smithsonian, or something...you know how they were supposedly involved in those ruins in the Grand Canyon back in 1909, right?
As usual, more speculation than facts, so we leave the topic open for additional input, but that's a kind of overview of how one fit of some of the bigger puzzle pieces fits together.
---
See entire item HERE<<Click
"George, I'm [ name withheld ]from Wichita, Kansas. I'm a 27 year old Marine Combat Vet that went through Fallujah, Iraq in 2005. I noticed a pyramid over there when I was convoying on our force protection missions (Western Iraq Al Nabar Provence).

"What the #*ck! is that doing here?" Took a pic of it for ya to see if maybe you know something of it. I do know Zacharia Sitchen says the place (Iraq and the Sumerian Civilization) is pretty important to understanding our origins. I'll have to agree on that one after many thousands of pages of reading and research. We definitely have a past that's hidden from us. I wrote a pretty long e-mail to you already but I erased it on accident so I'll have to sum up a few things quickly as I am now tired. My whole combat experience and growing up not so well off has always made me a survivalist...not in the traditional sense (even though I have now taken up the whole path of food storage, medical supplies, and obvious endless lists of beneficial items and knowledge retention). I've since gotten out and have been in law enforcement for a while...I've searched for my whole purpose as I've felt a divine presence my whole life telling me I was meant for something GRAND.
I've researched everything digging deeper into the filled up rabbit hole. I'm also sort-of a nerd but I pride myself in it. I've studied and continue to study quantum physics, geology, biology, astrology...all the "ologies" philosophy, spirituality, meditation, physiology, and consistently train physically and mentally. I have followed you and Clif's work for a while and recently purchased a copy of the ALTA report. Thank you guys. I say this because I know personally the rabbit hole is endless and the deeper we go the more overwhelming it gets. And to the others out there, be appreciative of the time we do have to self-reveal the difficult-to-piece-together knowledge that is out there. The situation is truly bizarre but hey...we're here to witness some amazing changes. The changes can seem grim but it has to get REAL worse for it to get REAL better. Whether we all see the end picture is up to Universe to reveal.
So what I have done at this point is accepted the coming changes. All I do at this point is keep up to date with the changes so I can place them on the map, since 1 thing really does lead to another we can expect other anticipated changes as a result. Out of all the obvious doom and gloom both expected, read, and experience...the most expected to me is looting and rioting. I am currently assisting my community through the neighborhood watch program. I have switched the gears on it and emphasized emergency preparedness...mostly along the lines of communication, food/water storage, and what to expect in a given scenario. My goal is that if they at least have a few weeks of food for their family's it will keep the looting down for a while until other preparations or actions are collectively agreed on. I do know that in a real situation things are not EVER as expected.
Another hint that I have noticed...its hard to tell people to have a "Survival Kit" change the terminology to "Emergency kit" makes people more relaxed about it and receptive. As I learned in Water Survival training...when your trying to save someone the victim will almost always try to drown you with them, sometimes you have to let go of them altogether or knock em' out and then revive them to save them. Tell your listeners to not drown others with them. LOL.
After I got out of the military I applied to be a security protective officer in the CIA. I flew out to Northern Virginia and was briefed and interviewed. One thing they told me was "You will be exposed to information that contradicts the news coverage" aka the news is bull crap for the most part. Man...glad I turned down that job offer. Much better living in the open although with less pay. LOL.
Just wanted to extend a Thanks To Ya Sir for everything.
Oh, no, thanks to YOU...you been there & done it...and that picture of the pyramid is interesting on any number of fronts. First, it's a 'flat topper' - like many of the Mexican, Central and South American models. and the angle is a lot less acute than the 'peaky' Cheops style. I'm assuming it wasn't an ammo storage facility - entryway is too narrow for that and yeah...kind of interesting.
Unfortunately, until some of the supposed participants in the 2001-2003 era 'antiquities units' - or their protective forces - decides to go public, or at least can fill us in on some of their missions and where they went and what they were looking for...we'll just have to make educated guesses as to whether some entity/government/organization/whatever actually went out and did a field survey and a little 'information retrieval work'. Contributions welcome, identity won't be revealed, yada, yada...
It's one of those topics where until there's a verifiable source then the odds of it being true are down in the under 1% range. Then when a source pops up, it will go to 99% - darned little middle ground.
My own theory? I think there's about an even-money chance that when the US went into the region, small intelligence teams were likely sent out to grab a photographic record of everything of value, particularly the hieroglyphs and other markings & symbology.
Here's why: Suppose you were a government - and you learned of some serious threat to the world being uncovered in a study of ancient texts in one part of the world. Nazca, Peru, or somewhere else in South or Central America would be a guess, since supposedly Quetzalcoatl came from the south to the north - being a wisdom spreader from the past civilization when Atlantis went south in the last crustal shift. (This isn't George, there are lots of learned books out there on this stuff).
Now suppose that in the work in the S/C American decoding session, a text was uncovered that said - in so many words - "When the Mayan Long Count ends, the sun will be come angry and when it does, it will send electricity and 'stuff' toward earth... and our whole 'worship of the Sun' has been cooked up to preserve this knowledge and to ensure its passage through time to the 'end of the Long Count (Baktun)'.
Suppose, even further now, that you had a church - a really big one based in Rome, and when your folks went off conquering S/C America they came back with hints in this direction. So, when you adjusted the world's calendaring system, a few years later in 1582, you didn't put in the end of the long count just right...maybe slid it a year so that when it came along in 2011...the people who were expecting it in 2012 would still be hard at work? This would ensure that those with foreknowledge of the event would be able to prepare before it dawned on most 'regular/slave-class humans...
Now, fast-forward to the US involvement in the Middle East. What IF there was something to it...wouldn't it make sense to go out and research the hell out of any new land to see if there are future-indicating clues about?
Computers, databases, and technology are such that if the US Government didn't have a small/semi-secret back-office operation somewhere that was virtually invisible yet tracking all kinds of disparate data like this because of its potential importance to long-term decision-making, well, let's just say I'd be surprised. Maybe make it some field office of the Smithsonian, or something...you know how they were supposedly involved in those ruins in the Grand Canyon back in 1909, right?
As usual, more speculation than facts, so we leave the topic open for additional input, but that's a kind of overview of how one fit of some of the bigger puzzle pieces fits together.
---
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Location: USA
Re: Pyramids of Iraq
excellent stuff camerlengo!
i have often wondered that as well..
Suppose, even further now, that you had a church - a really big one based in Rome, and when your folks went off conquering S/C America they came back with hints in this direction. So, when you adjusted the world's calendaring system, a few years later in 1582, you didn't put in the end of the long count just right...maybe slid it a year so that when it came along in 2011...the people who were expecting it in 2012 would still be hard at work? This would ensure that those with foreknowledge of the event would be able to prepare before it dawned on most 'regular/slave-class humans...
i have often wondered that as well..
Sorry: Those Were NOT Pyramids in Iraq
LOL, need to follow up on that "pyramid"
A couple of emails on point on this one:
"Morning, George...
I was just reading the bit about the Iraq pyramid and it was nice of the marine to attach a picture. Not to take away from the kid's email, but I'm somewhere in the neighborhood of 99.9% sure that what we're all seeing is a man-made bunker.
The country is full of them. If I remember correctly, they were built by the Polish (I'll leave that one alone). I was lucky enough to spend some time in Fallujah in the Al Anbar province (and several other interesting places) back in 2003 before it was leveled. I'll attach of a couple of pictures taken by yours truly for contrast and comparison discussions. These were taken at Balad, Iraq. It's easy to see how one could make a mistake. Feel fee to use those pics, just don't put my name out there.
Another on-site report:
"George,
Afraid I'm going to have to disagree with some detective work when it comes to the Iraqi pyramid bit from yesterday.
I've spent the better part of the decade in Iraq as both a US Marine and now as a contractor for a major US defense company, and looking at things is my business.
Anyway, the pyramid in the picture is, as you correctly pointed out, not a storage unit, but it's not so much a pyramid as it is a bunker. It's kind of difficult to tell from the picture, but judging by the others I've come across, they're mostly used for Command and Control type functions. Most were probably built in the 70's to 80's in preparation or response to the Iran war, and you'll find them scattered throughout Al Anbar province.
Saddam had sort of an interesting take on his defense logistics network, and that was to take massive amounts of munitions and basically dump them in the desert. Sort of like Umatilla, Oregon, but with a bit less security. What seemed like a real mess turned out to work well for his advantage, or at least the remains of his regime, once he was kicked out, as what Iraqi military personel left at the sites just left the bases, leaving the doors open with them. Most of the bunkers, those that survived the 1st war and the initial bombing runs of the 2nd were looted, along with the stores of artillery shells, etc. Hence the IED was so popular. It took a few years before we managed to get enough people together to make a dedicated effort to destroy the remaining muntions in these places, and at least in the Western Euphrates River Valley (WERV), it was with the assistance of the Iraqi police, army, and tribal militias.
Anyway, bottom line, not pyramids, just bunkers. It almost looks like you can see a ventilation system in the left part of the photo.
Hope that clears it up, keep up the good work, and keep putting out depressing stuff, gives me an excuse to crack open a...
(Alcohol reference removed for a reader who's coming up on the two-week mark). And our third 'eye-on report':
"Good morning to you George! Sergeant Pete (not too identifiable) here from the US Marine Infantry. My unit flew in and out of a base in Al Asad Iraq multiple times while opening and closing deployments to the region. I have personally been on and inside one of these pyramids and, best i can tell, they are munitions storage units built from reinforced concrete, separated from each other to prevent chain-reaction style detonations under attack, and capped off with a thick steel door. Safely located away from runways, equipment, personnel, and each other, these pyramids are built in small groups. My experiences in the country go back to when we were still sitting in Kuwait waiting for G-Dub to 'kick things off'. Tip of the Spear as they called us. I made a few trips over there and conducted various ops including small scale raids to large scale battles like Fallujah. If you need someone to bounce any questions off, i usually do a good job of tellin it like it is. I am a daily reader of your report, and my friends are slowly hopping on the train. Between perfecting my pies and acoustic guitars, thinking, and trying to assimilate back into a mindset not based on hunting/fighting my days seem to roll into each other with no time to spare. I consider your daily update just one side of my rehabilitation and a temporal marker that helps me to distinguish between one day and the next. Lawda-Mercy,
Indeedy-deedy-doo. Well, so much for the ancient pyramids theory, although the rumors of antiquities teams persist... And then there's this:
Are you following the amazing discoveries at Göbekli Tepe in S. Turkey (the name means "hill with a pot belly").
The place is estimated to be "at least" 12,000 years old, done with 'stone tools,' by 'stone age' hunter-gatherers. Wickedly, suspiciously advanced construction and artistic techniques, considering the rest of the world was living in skin, stick and/or waddle huts. And the best part . . . the entire temple complex (only a small portion of which has been uncovered to date) was intentionally buried, preserving it in pristine condition.
Who made Göbekli Tepe? Why did they make it? Why did they bury it? Where did they go when they left it for the last time? 12,000 years from now, will people be randomly discovering the St. Peter's Basilica or the Mormon Temple and asking the same questions?"
Chaldeans walking West, dude...least that's a workman idea, huh? Bringing with them the prohibitions from the last time around and encoding them for future generations in religions... (spin up the X-Files theme?)
See entire article here<<Click
A couple of emails on point on this one:
"Morning, George...
I was just reading the bit about the Iraq pyramid and it was nice of the marine to attach a picture. Not to take away from the kid's email, but I'm somewhere in the neighborhood of 99.9% sure that what we're all seeing is a man-made bunker.
The country is full of them. If I remember correctly, they were built by the Polish (I'll leave that one alone). I was lucky enough to spend some time in Fallujah in the Al Anbar province (and several other interesting places) back in 2003 before it was leveled. I'll attach of a couple of pictures taken by yours truly for contrast and comparison discussions. These were taken at Balad, Iraq. It's easy to see how one could make a mistake. Feel fee to use those pics, just don't put my name out there.
Another on-site report:
"George,
Afraid I'm going to have to disagree with some detective work when it comes to the Iraqi pyramid bit from yesterday.
I've spent the better part of the decade in Iraq as both a US Marine and now as a contractor for a major US defense company, and looking at things is my business.
Anyway, the pyramid in the picture is, as you correctly pointed out, not a storage unit, but it's not so much a pyramid as it is a bunker. It's kind of difficult to tell from the picture, but judging by the others I've come across, they're mostly used for Command and Control type functions. Most were probably built in the 70's to 80's in preparation or response to the Iran war, and you'll find them scattered throughout Al Anbar province.
Saddam had sort of an interesting take on his defense logistics network, and that was to take massive amounts of munitions and basically dump them in the desert. Sort of like Umatilla, Oregon, but with a bit less security. What seemed like a real mess turned out to work well for his advantage, or at least the remains of his regime, once he was kicked out, as what Iraqi military personel left at the sites just left the bases, leaving the doors open with them. Most of the bunkers, those that survived the 1st war and the initial bombing runs of the 2nd were looted, along with the stores of artillery shells, etc. Hence the IED was so popular. It took a few years before we managed to get enough people together to make a dedicated effort to destroy the remaining muntions in these places, and at least in the Western Euphrates River Valley (WERV), it was with the assistance of the Iraqi police, army, and tribal militias.
Anyway, bottom line, not pyramids, just bunkers. It almost looks like you can see a ventilation system in the left part of the photo.
Hope that clears it up, keep up the good work, and keep putting out depressing stuff, gives me an excuse to crack open a...
(Alcohol reference removed for a reader who's coming up on the two-week mark). And our third 'eye-on report':
"Good morning to you George! Sergeant Pete (not too identifiable) here from the US Marine Infantry. My unit flew in and out of a base in Al Asad Iraq multiple times while opening and closing deployments to the region. I have personally been on and inside one of these pyramids and, best i can tell, they are munitions storage units built from reinforced concrete, separated from each other to prevent chain-reaction style detonations under attack, and capped off with a thick steel door. Safely located away from runways, equipment, personnel, and each other, these pyramids are built in small groups. My experiences in the country go back to when we were still sitting in Kuwait waiting for G-Dub to 'kick things off'. Tip of the Spear as they called us. I made a few trips over there and conducted various ops including small scale raids to large scale battles like Fallujah. If you need someone to bounce any questions off, i usually do a good job of tellin it like it is. I am a daily reader of your report, and my friends are slowly hopping on the train. Between perfecting my pies and acoustic guitars, thinking, and trying to assimilate back into a mindset not based on hunting/fighting my days seem to roll into each other with no time to spare. I consider your daily update just one side of my rehabilitation and a temporal marker that helps me to distinguish between one day and the next. Lawda-Mercy,
Indeedy-deedy-doo. Well, so much for the ancient pyramids theory, although the rumors of antiquities teams persist... And then there's this:
Are you following the amazing discoveries at Göbekli Tepe in S. Turkey (the name means "hill with a pot belly").
The place is estimated to be "at least" 12,000 years old, done with 'stone tools,' by 'stone age' hunter-gatherers. Wickedly, suspiciously advanced construction and artistic techniques, considering the rest of the world was living in skin, stick and/or waddle huts. And the best part . . . the entire temple complex (only a small portion of which has been uncovered to date) was intentionally buried, preserving it in pristine condition.
Who made Göbekli Tepe? Why did they make it? Why did they bury it? Where did they go when they left it for the last time? 12,000 years from now, will people be randomly discovering the St. Peter's Basilica or the Mormon Temple and asking the same questions?"
Chaldeans walking West, dude...least that's a workman idea, huh? Bringing with them the prohibitions from the last time around and encoding them for future generations in religions... (spin up the X-Files theme?)
See entire article here<<Click

Camerlengo- Moderator

- Posts: 62
Join date: 2010-01-11
Location: USA
Re: Pyramids of Iraq
Are you following the amazing discoveries at Göbekli Tepe in S. Turkey (the name means "hill with a pot belly").
The place is estimated to be "at least" 12,000 years old, done with 'stone tools,' by 'stone age' hunter-gatherers. Wickedly, suspiciously advanced construction and artistic techniques, considering the rest of the world was living in skin, stick and/or waddle huts. And the best part . . . the entire temple complex (only a small portion of which has been uncovered to date) was intentionally buried, preserving it in pristine condition.
wow..dont know of that place
Gobekli Tepe

by Gary Vey for viewzone
So often we think of primitive humans as being crude and clumsy, grunting to each other while wearing animal skins and living in caves. We see them as reactive -- struggling against nature and barely winning the battles to survive. While this is true for much of human antiquity, around 9000 BC something dramatic happened. It was the beginning of the era when man became proactive -- he took control of his environment and destiny.
We don't know exactly why this happened, but we have some clues. One interesting theory comes from psychologist Julian Jaynes who suggests that the human mind divided itself into two different types of thinking, each processing its thoughts in a separate hemisphere of the brain. One side processed logic, details, facts, and strategies (usually the left) while the other processed emotions, symbols, language and future planning.
In his book, The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind, Jaynes places this dramatic event around 3000 years ago. But recent discoveries, like the one in Turkey at Gobekli Tepe, have pushed this event back to more than 11,000 years ago.
One small step for man. One giant step for mankind.
Prior to this division of labor in the human mind, thoughts and ideas were largely in the "here and now." Civilization advanced slowly by repeating successful behaviors and strategies. Attention was paid to patterns, especially where these related to food. Certain seasons brought various types of migrating animals which could be hunted. Ripe fruits were plentiful in certain regions at specific times of the year -- measured by the number of full Moons that passed or the position of the Sun against a mountain.
The earliest calendar was found in Uganda [above] and dates to this period. Some sites in North America suggest that the Clovis culture had stone alignments to measure the positions of the Sun, marking the seasonal climate changes.
Early humans were hunters and gatherers, always on the move, with few opportunities to plan for the future, decorate their bodies or dwellings or build communities. But that suddenly changed 11,000 years ago.
With part of the human brain assigned to look at the world in new ways, the idea of growing one's food instead of hunting or foraging for it was invented. With the development of future thinking, planting seeds and the domestication of animals for milk, eggs and meat allowed for stable communities to grow. With this came the much needed socialization and the sharing of ideas that led to what we call civilization.
In another article on viewzone, we showed dramatic evidence that the remains of what is believed to be Noah's Ark has been located in Turkey, near the Iranian border. Certainly a large and somewhat petrified hull of a boat is there, causing historians and religious leaders to re-evaluate their paradigms. And so it is no surprise that we should find yet another apparent anomaly in the same general area.

This evolved division of human thought processing is no more evident than at the archaeological site of Gobekli Tepe, located just North of the Syrian border with Turkey. Here we see evidence of a real community where groups of people worked together to create shelters with architectural design, a balance of form and function, and for an abstract spiritual purpose. The influence of the right brain is very evident. But even more remarkable are the artistic elements found inside these shelters.

The shelters are well designed. The "T" shape stones have been carved from a quarry about a kilometer away and weigh about 20 tons each. It is estimated that at least 500 workers would have had to be involved in carving and moving these huge stones. The stones are actually pillars used to support a roof, probably made of wood. Arranged in a circle and spaced by about 2 to 4 meters apart, the pillars are part of the walls of the shelter which were finished by piling stones between them. Many of these stone walls have been found intact.
The stone pillars are amazing examples of what artists call bas relief. To make a bas relief sculpture you have o think in the abstract.
An artist friend of mine begins his sculptures by approaching a solid material and asking the question, "what's in there?" In his thinking, the carved shape already exists and his task is to take away the material surrounding it. It's a kind of "negative" thinking that requires the special cognitive and creative abilities of the right brain. The same type of thinking was required to make arrow points, such as the Clovis, from flint. And this ability was suddenly and mysteriously available to virtually all human minds around 9000 BC.
Who made this?
During the last ice age, human populations fled the harsh climates and struggled to survive in the milder regions, such as the Lavent (present day Turkey). Archaeological data shows that a group of nomadic hunters, called the Kebaran, occupied this area from about 18,000 to 9,500 BC. The Kebaran were not artistic. Their major accomplishments were the building of crude stone shelters at the sites of their various seasonal migrations and their production of microlithic tools and weapons.
The region was not as dry and barron as it looks today. Many small animals and birds were readily available as food sources and these crude but sharp stones were used as arrow and spear points as well as cutting and scraping tools. The tools were not very sophisticated but they were sharp and could be made easily as needed from material in the environment.
It is believed that the Keraban people moved to the highlands during the warm months and retreated to caves and rock shelters in the colder months. There is little or no evidence that they ever stockpiled or stored food and certainly no signs of agriculture or animal herding has been seen. By all definitions, they lived in the present.
Contrasting the Keraban culture, the builders of the Gobekli site showed that they were capable of stone carving on a much larger scale. This implies that they had enough time to master these skills and suggests that they had already learned to cultivate crops and herd animals for their survival. We are not sure if the Gobekli builders are the same lineage as the Keraban people who may have acquired this cultural upgrade to their minds, but it does seem likely.
In the 1950's, archaeologist Rose Solecki began excavating a cave site near the Greater Zab river in Kurdistan -- the geographic home of the ancient Keraban. The cave had been used for burials during their occupation of the land. Inside the burial cave they found goat skulls placed next to the wing bones of large predatory birds, including the bearded vulture, the griffon vulture, the white-tailed sea eagle and the great bustard.
In 1977 the journal Sumer published an article by Rose Solecki entitled Predatory Bird Rituals at Zawi Chemi Shanidar where she described the findings, going on to suggest that the wings had almost certainly been utilized as part of some kind of ritualistic costume, worn either for personal decoration or for ceremonial purposes.
She connected the finds with Vulture Shamanism. We see some of these same vulture totems carved on the pillars at the Gobekli site.
Why a vulture?
The noted Athenian writer Aeschylus says,
"What bird is clean that preys on fellow bird? -- Besides, all other birds are, so to say, never out of our eyes; they let themselves be seen of us continually; but a vulture is a very rare sight, and you can seldom meet with a man that has seen their young; their rarity and infrequency has raised a strange opinion in some, that they come to us from some other world; as soothsayers ascribe a divine origination to all things not produced either of nature or of themselves."
Before humans had "dual brains" they were embedded in nature. They were part of the migrations as much as their prey. They were ruled by the season, much as every other species of plant and animal. As such, their connection to nature and the spiritual world was intimate. "God" was not a super-human but rather was represented by certain qualities of special animals, such as the vulture. This was the age of innocence for man -- the age of Shamanism.
Can Goknil in Creation Myths From Central Asia To Anatolia: Images From The Creation Myths Of The Turks writes this of Shamanism:
"Shamanism is a system of belief common to the Turks of Central Asia. Both men and women could be Shaman priests and among old Turkish groups they were called Kam. Kams dressed in elaborate garments to display their supernatural powers. Accompanied by the beating of drums in their rituals, they believed they could fly with the aid of their own guardian animal. During such flights they reached various levels of Heaven or the Underworld. Upon returning to this world, they used the information they had learned during their journey for the benefit of their followers."
Background and History of the site
Gobekli Tepe is located on the top of a small hill. The name means "hill with a navel" or "hill with a belly" in Turkish. In the 1960's an archeologists from the University of Chicago examined the site as part of a general survey of the region. There were some ruins of an old monestery on the site and, at the time, no real effort was made to look for anything with great antiquity.
In the 1990s a local shepherd noticed some obviously carved stones peaking through the ground and alerted the authorities. Word spread to the German Archeological Institute in Istanbul and a man named Klaus Schmidt re-visited the site in 1994. He collected some artifacts at the site and saw the similarity between these and some museum pieces that had been dated to 9,000 BC. Soon, a German-Turkish team was excavating the site.
The entire site covers 22 acres. The top of the hill is somewhat flat with a "bump" of about 300 meters in diameter and 15 meters high which seemed to contain the mother load of the archaeological material. Only about one acre has been examined so far.
The site appears to be dated mostly from about 9,000 BC and 8,000 BC, but other artifacts on the site have been dated to between 11,000 BC and 12,000 BC. This era lies on the cusp of the hunter-gatherer and agricultural epochs. It seems to have been built just as humanity had evolved to utilize its two brains.
Klaus Schmidt, the chief archeologist of Gobekli Tepe speculates that hunter-gatherer bands or tribes lived near the site in animal skin tents and built the complex over several decades. So far, however, no concrete evidence has been found to demonstrate that the builders engaged in farming of animal herding. In fact, there are a large number of microflint arrowheads found near the site. Also bones of wild animals surround the site, many of them bearing marks indicating that the animals were butchered. This suggests that the evolution of agriculture and animal husbandry was in the process of being developed.
There are seven round structures on the site, ranging from about 10 to 30 meters in diameter. So far only 4 have been excavated. Ground scanning data shows at least 16 more buildings remain buried in the hill, consisting of about 200 additional T-shaped pillars.
Each shelter has outside pillars standing about 6 feet high with central pillars of about 9 to 10 feet tall. Almost all of these pillars are decorated with animals in bas relief depicting vultures, foxes, lions, cattle, wild boars, scorpions, ants and snakes. There are also a number of free-standing sculptures, badly damaged and encrusted with lime, which probably also represent animals. The floors are made of burnt lime (terrazzo) and there is a low bench running around the inside of the outer walls.
Oddly, there is no evidence that people ever lived in the shelters. There are no cooking hearths, bones or garbage. This, along with the vulture totems, has led many to believe the site had some religious purpose. Although no graves have been found, it has been suggested that the site was possibly a type of cemetery for the dead. Human remains have been found outside the perimeter of the site. This suggests that humans may have been buried or left in the open air to be eaten by animals. This would reinforce the vulture totem found carved on the pillars.
Some paradoxes at the site
The site shows two eras of construction, spearated by thousands of years. The oldest era, starting around 11,000 years ago, contains the most elaborate carvings and attention to detail. But advance a couple of thousand years and the workmanship deteriorates! More practical and basic designs are utilized with little or no decorations. Obviously, we would expect the opposite to be true -- especially for a site that was so important to have been in use for several thousand years!
The other paradox in that around 8000-7500 BC, Gobekli Tepe was deliberately covered with about 300-500 cubic meters of soil, and abandoned. The reason for the abandonment is unknown.
Agriculture and Animal Husbandry
10,500 years ago, agriculture originated in the hills around Gobekli Tepe. Archaeological evidence shows that wheat was grown and harvested, as well as other indigenous plants. Animals such as sheep, cattle and pigs were herded and used for their milk and meat. Dogs and cats were domesticated and probably used for pest control or to protect the harvest from rodents or thieves. An old man was even found buried with his canine companion. All of this was made possible by right-brain processing which involves emotion and future planning.
The Arts
Besides the refined and beautiful bas reliefs of various animals in the shelters, the oldest full-size human statue was found in the area. It consists of a full size man carved from limestone with obsidian eyes. Tests show it is 12,000 years old.
Garden of Eden?
Some Biblical scholars have also associated Gobekli Tepe with the myth of Eden. According to this interpretation, the myth refers to the transition from a hunter-gatherer society to one based on agriculture. The thinking is that the hunting-gathering lifestyle was easy and pleasant, at least in areas that were rich in resources. Agriculture, by contrast, involved a lot of work and was probably not very productive to begin with. The loss of Eden was the transition to agriculture, and may be a memory of what happened at Gobekli Tepe. God says to Adam:
"Cursed is the ground because of you; in toil you shall eat of it all the days of your life."
Another analogy can be made for the division of the human brain, suddenly capable of having two thoughts at the same time:
"God knows well that the moment you eat of it your eyes will be opened and you will be like gods who know what is good and what is bad." --Genesis 3:5
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